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		<title>By: 5 Improvements for SMM Sentiment Analysis &#171; Wholly Social</title>
		<link>http://whollysocial.com/index.php/2010/03/why-automated-sentiment-analysis-shouldnt-feature-in-social-media-monitoring-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>5 Improvements for SMM Sentiment Analysis &#171; Wholly Social</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was pretty down on the tech in my last post. I had a few reasons,  mainly wrapped up in the fact that I don&#8217;t think it does a good [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Thomas</title>
		<link>http://whollysocial.com/index.php/2010/03/why-automated-sentiment-analysis-shouldnt-feature-in-social-media-monitoring-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the input! Having a few more (and more constructive thoughts) about where I think the tech should go. Will post again over the w&#039;end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the input! Having a few more (and more constructive thoughts) about where I think the tech should go. Will post again over the w&#8217;end.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Evans</title>
		<link>http://whollysocial.com/index.php/2010/03/why-automated-sentiment-analysis-shouldnt-feature-in-social-media-monitoring-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

I think there is a role for automated sentiment within social media monitoring given the amount of data/conversations that need to be tracked and reviewed. It&#039;s important to remember that it&#039;s still early days for sentiment technology so its reliability and accurateness will improve over time. 

At the same time, social media monitoring services should still offer the ability for human editing. Within Sysomos&#039; MAP service, for example, users can manually adjust sentiment settings.

Mark

(I&#039;m the director of communications with Sysomos.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>I think there is a role for automated sentiment within social media monitoring given the amount of data/conversations that need to be tracked and reviewed. It&#8217;s important to remember that it&#8217;s still early days for sentiment technology so its reliability and accurateness will improve over time. </p>
<p>At the same time, social media monitoring services should still offer the ability for human editing. Within Sysomos&#8217; MAP service, for example, users can manually adjust sentiment settings.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m the director of communications with Sysomos.com)</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Gilliatt</title>
		<link>http://whollysocial.com/index.php/2010/03/why-automated-sentiment-analysis-shouldnt-feature-in-social-media-monitoring-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Gilliatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;know, I wondered how many people wouldn&#039;t know about mood rings--so I linked to the wikipedia article, too. :-)

Actually, my point in using the mood ring metaphor is to say that sentiment is more interested as a filter than as a standalone metric. Watching the sentiment line go up and down is like watching a mood ring change color--interesting, but lacking in depth.

http://net-savvy.com/executive/measurement/sentiment-analysis-is-not-a-mood-ring.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;know, I wondered how many people wouldn&#8217;t know about mood rings&#8211;so I linked to the wikipedia article, too. <img src='http://whollysocial.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Actually, my point in using the mood ring metaphor is to say that sentiment is more interested as a filter than as a standalone metric. Watching the sentiment line go up and down is like watching a mood ring change color&#8211;interesting, but lacking in depth.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria Ogneva</title>
		<link>http://whollysocial.com/index.php/2010/03/why-automated-sentiment-analysis-shouldnt-feature-in-social-media-monitoring-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria Ogneva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for starting this discussion. Sentiment analysis is a hot topic for sure. Both human and automated sentiment have their place.

I mostly wanted to address what you say in #1 re: vendors not disclosing if their analysis is at a topic or article level. I can&#039;t speak for other vendors, but at Biz360, we do both, and our accuracy is slightly higher at a topic (aka entity) level analysis. I also think that if you are a brand, topic-level analysis is a lot more useful, because there are more articles that deal with several brands at the same time.  Our topic level accuracy is 65%, while 62% accuracy at  article level (we have 4 sentiments BTW vs. some other vendors&#039; 3). We trained our data via Mechanical Turk until incremental increase in accuracy was &lt;1%. Users have a chance to override sentiment, as well as toss an article or a source altogether from your results.

Automated sentiment is useful when you have 50,000 articles - you will never be able to read them all! If you want sentiment of an individual article  - well, you should probably read it :)

Cheers!

@themaria @biz360</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for starting this discussion. Sentiment analysis is a hot topic for sure. Both human and automated sentiment have their place.</p>
<p>I mostly wanted to address what you say in #1 re: vendors not disclosing if their analysis is at a topic or article level. I can&#8217;t speak for other vendors, but at Biz360, we do both, and our accuracy is slightly higher at a topic (aka entity) level analysis. I also think that if you are a brand, topic-level analysis is a lot more useful, because there are more articles that deal with several brands at the same time.  Our topic level accuracy is 65%, while 62% accuracy at  article level (we have 4 sentiments BTW vs. some other vendors&#8217; 3). We trained our data via Mechanical Turk until incremental increase in accuracy was &lt;1%. Users have a chance to override sentiment, as well as toss an article or a source altogether from your results.</p>
<p>Automated sentiment is useful when you have 50,000 articles &#8211; you will never be able to read them all! If you want sentiment of an individual article  &#8211; well, you should probably read it <img src='http://whollysocial.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
<p>@themaria @biz360</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Thomas</title>
		<link>http://whollysocial.com/index.php/2010/03/why-automated-sentiment-analysis-shouldnt-feature-in-social-media-monitoring-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Michelle, thanks for the comment. 

It&#039;s an interesting metaphor (although I had to resort to Wikipedia to find out what a mood ring is ;)). 

I frame the issue slightly differently. Human sentiment analysis is a very established part of traditional media content analysis (around since the 70s / 80s). This is what many customers - particularly the ones with a PR / comms background - think they are getting: an automated; cheap; effective substitute for expensive human content analysis. 

But as you guys know, it&#039;s not the same thing at all - automated sentiment analysis was developed to do something different, follows a different logic path and produces very different results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Michelle, thanks for the comment. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s an interesting metaphor (although I had to resort to Wikipedia to find out what a mood ring is <img src='http://whollysocial.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> ). </p>
<p>I frame the issue slightly differently. Human sentiment analysis is a very established part of traditional media content analysis (around since the 70s / 80s). This is what many customers &#8211; particularly the ones with a PR / comms background &#8211; think they are getting: an automated; cheap; effective substitute for expensive human content analysis. </p>
<p>But as you guys know, it&#8217;s not the same thing at all &#8211; automated sentiment analysis was developed to do something different, follows a different logic path and produces very different results.</p>
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		<title>By: Synthesio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Synthesio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t agree with you more, Chris. Nothing replaces human analysis of human behavior. Whether companies analyze social media monitoring data in-house or out-source it, there should be someone - if not a team - dedicated to analyzing the information at various levels to make it relevant to the company&#039;s strategies and objectives.
Nathan Gilliatt actually just posted a great metaphor for automated sentiment analysis comparing it to a mood ring ; it&#039;s the shiny new feature that everyone wants but not everyone knows why or how to use it. Like any other form of social media monitoring analysis, it is only as relevant as the qualitative information behind it.
It&#039;s been a while since we last caught up, but I&#039;m glad this caught my eye! 

Best,
Michelle @Synthesio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree with you more, Chris. Nothing replaces human analysis of human behavior. Whether companies analyze social media monitoring data in-house or out-source it, there should be someone &#8211; if not a team &#8211; dedicated to analyzing the information at various levels to make it relevant to the company&#8217;s strategies and objectives.<br />
Nathan Gilliatt actually just posted a great metaphor for automated sentiment analysis comparing it to a mood ring ; it&#8217;s the shiny new feature that everyone wants but not everyone knows why or how to use it. Like any other form of social media monitoring analysis, it is only as relevant as the qualitative information behind it.<br />
It&#8217;s been a while since we last caught up, but I&#8217;m glad this caught my eye! </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Michelle @Synthesio</p>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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